Does anyone have any information on prison entrance medicals for either males or females.
Any info,either first or secondhand would be appreciated.
as harsh as it sounds invasive exams are needed to help keep the jail enviorment safe.
My name is Ana and I'm 47 years old, I was 44 when that happened.
I served 6 months in prison and I got frisked / strip searched almsot every day there, frisked naked a few times and got a cavity search at the entrance and then about 2 or 3 more times during my time. Despite the fact the Staff was very professional I found the experience pretty humiliating, and now (some time after) kinda exicting.
When I arrived the facility for the first time after been asked lot of questions an done routine paperwork I was called to a room with 2 officers (both females, I always got searched by same sex staff), they asked me to take off all my clothes, one by one, my hair pins, jewelery, watch and my glasses, had a to wait a few minutes naked while they checked all my property, then one of the officers asked me to bend foward so she could run her fingers searching my hair from the scalp to the tips, she checked behind and inside ears with a flashlight, then she told me to stand straight and open my mouth real wide, lift tongue, and she checked inside with the light. After that told me to exted arms by sides, she felt my arptis, tummy and body sides, and finally my breasts area, lifting them and checking bewteen. She told me to turn around, and lift one foot at time, she checked between toes, and then bend over, and spread my cheeks, she briefly felt my crotch and inside cheeks, finally told to squat down and cough hard for 3 times.
Later they took me to the showers, and when done and after giving me a gown they called me for my medical check up and cavity search. a female doctor did it with a nurse and 2 officers looking: had to take my gown off, the doctor probed inside my mouth with a tongue depressor and glvoed fingers, then I laid down over the examination table and she performed an internal search at my vagina with an speculum, which was really uncofortable and finally using fingers checked isndide my rectum. After that I got a routine check up.
The reality of being incarcerated in jail, prison or any correctional facility is that the inmates will be abused or raped quite frequently, and acquire STDs, and might become HIV+. The guards frequently just overlook rape and abuse. Prison in itself is a sub culture, with many ethnic groups fighting for power and control. Female inmates also are systematically raped at times by the guards, as well as other inmates. This results in unwanted pregnancies and STDs as well. So some of these children that are born are the by product of violence. Add to the fact that some inmates are mentally ill and receive poor psychiatric care, or are even undiagnoded, the living conditions become even worse. Some inmates are actually innocent, btw. Lets not forget that travesty of justice.
Hence, violence and abuse begets more violence and abuse within the correctional facilities. There is no system in place for true rehabilitation on a consistent basis, which varies from state to state.
The inmates are still human beings and deserve to be treated just like civilians in the real world when it involves any invasive body cavity search or other invasive medical examination.
How can traumatizing and dehumimizing incarcerated human beings, and purposefully humiliating and degrading them by behaving in an unprofessional manner as a medical professional be EROTIC in any manner? I find the thought of any acts of repeated vaginal or rectal exams just for the thrill of it as ones of molestation and a form of sexual assault.
Perhaps just regular role play with consensual play partners, such as "Doctor/nurse" and "naughty inmate" or "Wicked prison guard" and "inmate" in the real free world might be a more realistic and fun way to act out any wild fantasies , or in which ever manner both partners mutually decide to play each scene.
Just my thoughts, that's all.
Wow, nice story ASOK. There cases like this that we hear about in the news. I think there was a woman in Ohio who was forcibly searched and later sued the police department responsible. Maybe Steffey was the name? Do you think there was a chance your friend was exaggerating at all if she was upset or emotional? It sounds like cases like these get alot of media attention and sizable settlements if she were to file a report. Why do you think she resisted instead of complying when the other officers showed up?My wife got an internal exam when she was processed at an central intake center. It wasn't a prison since the intake happens at a specific booking facility here for the whole state, and then prisoners are transferred to their permanent institution. However, it was done with 2 guards and a nurse. She said she briefly thought about not complying with their requests, but fear of the unknown, i.e. what would have happened if she had refused, kept her from saying anything. If this story is representative of our state facility's policies, then it would surely have been a much worse experience for her.
Wow, nice story ASOK. There cases like this that we hear about in the news. I think there was a woman in Ohio who was forcibly searched and later sued the police department responsible. Maybe Steffey was the name? Do you think there was a chance your friend was exaggerating at all if she was upset or emotional? It sounds like cases like these get alot of media attention and sizable settlements if she were to file a report. Why do you think she resisted instead of complying when the other officers showed up?
My wife got an internal exam when she was processed at an central intake center. It wasn't a prison since the intake happens at a specific booking facility here for the whole state, and then prisoners are transferred to their permanent institution. However, it was done with 2 guards and a nurse. She said she briefly thought about not complying with their requests, but fear of the unknown, i.e. what would have happened if she had refused, kept her from saying anything. If this story is representative of our state facility's policies, then it would surely have been a much worse experience for her.
Glad you liked it! (I SURE liked PARTS of it!! a long time ago) I do admit..that she NEVER! even let me touch her ass..even rub her there.And for her to get a rubber gloved finger RIGHT UP THERE..I did find somewhat arousing.
I have not really looked..or heard.. of incidents like this much anymore. This happened quite a while ago. I would think that nowadays..pretty much everywhere..because of lawsuits..there would be video evidence..searches probably done by medical personnel.It sure can become a gray area.
Police searches are one thing..being put in jail in a Police station..jail cell is one thing. Finding yourself being taken to a jail..an actual correctional facility..a prison..is quite another.
I do know that here..you can refuse a breathalyser..why people refuse a breathalyser here is beyond me..as the penatly for refusing a breathalyser is the same as for failing one. Anyway..the Police can ask for a blood test to test for alcohol or drugs.If you refuse a breathalyser or the Police suspect that you are on drugs..you get taken to a hospital and they take blood. End of that.
I knew this girl really well. She was not the type to exaggerate OR get upset or emotional. That being said..her and several other friends I had had BIG PROBLEMS! with authority. .BIG PROBLEMS with authority,alcohol..and her when drinking..add drinking and driving..add being stopped by the Police..un hunh..I can see where this is going..went. Plus she was very small (there) and did not like medical exams,internals,pap tests etc. She went once a year..barely..got it over with. I don't think she would have any reason to exaggerate,lie to me. Wasn't like/would not be like her to do that anyway. She looked genuinely traumatized when she showed up unannounced.
I think her level of resistance got "set" when she was asked to pull her panties down..and she just continued fighting.
I think all in all..she was treated "fairly". A big problem with authority,a problem with that and your mouth when you are drinking,drinking and driving,getting stopped by the Police. Knowing what I know about drinking and driving here..and how you were treated then and now.Had she kept her big mouth shut she probably would not have even been charged with drinking and driving! Then the cops were much more lenient! Lots of people got warnings,left in their cars and had their keys taken away haha. ESPECIALLY pretty girls,women got breaks. Even then..charged..ok. HELD at the Police Station?? DUH. NOBODY got held at the Police Station for that then. Shooting your mouth off to the cops=almost for sure more trouble.Finding yourself in a jail..and STILL acting that way.I don't blame the guard for searching her.The guard no doubt heard how she was actiing..then basically continuing to act that way and refused to being searched? What might she be hiding?
I guess the moral of the story is if you are a female and is really small there,does not like exams there=then you should not be going around with a bad attitude towards authority,drinking,shooting your mouth off.drinking and driving,getting caught by the Police and then just continuing on..until you find yourself being held in a jail=being "searched" cavity..where you do not want to be searched. That is what can..and in this case..did happen.
I didn't feel that sorry for her at the time.She wasn't abused,pushed around. Forcibly cavity searched..well..yes..that happened.She brought this whole thing on.
Your wife getting an internal exam..well..you said she "thought" of not complying.."fear of the unknown". Well..I guess your wife is a lot smarter than my friend was. "Fear of the unknown" would simply have become a forced internal exam. I am guessing that your wife's internal was nowhere as difficult..or as painful as my friends "cavity search" was.
ASOK,Sounds very interesting.
Sounds very interesting.
Cool you are interested! 100% true,hard to believe story.
Female friend stopped while driving.. years ago.. by the Police.She'd been drinking..knowing her at the time..drunk. She got mouthy when she drank.Needless to say..she got mouthy with the cop..(arguing she told me)got arrested for drinking and driving..gee that is hard to figure out. She was resistant(no surprise there knowing her)(told me that too).Fought with the cop(always smart),Got handcuffed.(They didn't used to always handcuff you back then). Put in the back of the cruiser.Standard protocol..you get taken to the station for a breathalyser. They get the breath sample..let you go..you get a court date. Go back,get your car somehow.
She was un-cooperative at the station. Cop figured..ok..he would have her car towed from where it was to the pound..that was a few hundred$ and it ended up being towed really far from where she was(go figure). Then he decided to just put her in the drunk tank for the night..12 hrs. If a cop suspects you are drunk..doesn't really take very much for them to say "drunk in a public place" and if your liquor is doing the talking..you can get arrested,charged,get a fine or a date in court..then off to the slammer for 12 hrs. All pretty common and straighforward.
She was handcuffed again..which really got her even more upset! Then escorted off to the drunk tank. She could not believe she was actually being held in a jail.The drunk tank was full. Between her mouth..and the cop..he figured he would just send her somewhere else.No problem. He could have let her go. I don't think she was actually drunk enough to warrant this.Something about alcohol..trouble..the cops.
She felt she was going to be let go. And of course was even more upset when she was told she was being taken to the women's correctional centre nearby!
Off she went..in handcuffs.
Once there the woman prison guard seemed really nice,friendly.and on her side. Asked her..noting..if there would be any problems if her cuffs were taken off. Cuffs off..some paperwork. My friend was somehow still not clued in to the fact she was staying there..for 12 hrs. She was stunned..when the prison guard remarked that at least tonight..it was not busy..and she would get a nice quiet cell to herself. My friend was just speechless..as she was usherred into another room and told she would be searched quickly..then off to a cell..then out before she knew it.
This was a "correctional centre"..a jail..a prison..basically used for "2 years less a day sentences". Some pretty serious offences here!
The woman prison guard came back in to the room where she now was. She was very nice again.(I don't know where she was ranked as far as guards go?..but she had plenty of authority).She asked my friend to stand against the wall..turned around..and leaning over. No big deal my friend thought. Just..a quick search. Then she was asked to remove her blouse. My friend did not even react. Respond. And was asked again.The guard was very polite and said she needed to be searched.Again..no response from my friend. The guard said that she needed to be searched and was going to be searched before being put in the cell..and that she hoped my friend would co-operate and not have to be restrained.Somehow my friend thought if she co-operated even this little bit..they would let her go. She took off her blouse..faced away from the guard..and placed it on the floor.The she was completety horrified when she was asked to remove her bra. Finally she did..knowing that they would then let her go. She was again faced away from the guard and removed her bra. And put that on the floor too. Just as soon as her bra hit the floor.she was relieved as she was told she could put her bra and blouse back on. Done..over she thought. Whew!.
Then the guard asked her to pull down her pants. My friend thought just one more thing..pulled down her pants. The guard walked up right behind her and said she had to pull down her panties too.That is where it ended for my friend. She was NOT! pulling her panties down. She angrily told the guard..whom she had thought was so nice,friendly,and on her side that she was NOT! pulling her panties down. The guard was still really nice..
and simply said..she had to be searched before being put in the cell..and if she did not co-operate she would have to be restrained.My friend said at this point she thought she was sober..and yes..she had driven after drinking..but now she was in a jail?? The guard asked again if my friend wanted to co-operate and she said NO. The guard said ok..she would call for help and she would be restrained and searched.And it would go down as refused to be searched.Then the guard said to my friend she could change her mind and cooperate at any time.
The guard called for help..and immediately 2 male and 2 female prison guards showed up. My friend was standing there with her pants down.
Again she is asked if she will co-operate.They attempted to restrain her and she fought back.In an instant my friend said they had her restrained..and
held down on the floor. The 2 female guards each holding an arm and a shoulder..the 2 male guards both holding her legs down together as she lay on her back. Her pants still down. The original female guard said she was going to remove her panties and search her. My friend said she could barely move as the female prison guard pulled down her panties as she screamed.2 male guards got a birds eye view..as did the 2 females that were turned around holding her shoulders and arms.
The original female prison guard said to my friend.."I AM going to search you..this WILL be VERY un-comfortable if you do not co-operate..stop fighting us..and relax". My friend fought..kicking and screaming..once her pants and panties were removed..her legs free..for a second..not for long.
The 2 male guards had control of her legs..held back behind her knees..her knees pushed back towards her chest..and pulled apart as she lay on her back and the 2 female guards held her shoulders and arms. She was screaming..and very,very exposed..and in position to be examined.
The original female guard knelt between her splayed legs and my friend saw her take out rubber gloves..which only made my friend scream louder.
2 female guards,2 male guards were looking as the original female guard ,looked at her between her legs as first..her lips were spread..which makes her clit stick out. My friend said she could not move at all.And started crying..sobbing..Her lips were really pulled apart wide right at her opening.She felt pressure from the fingertips
and pushing right at her opening.Her lips were let go.The guard said she was going to do a cavity search.My friend said she was dry and tensed up as much as she could trying to stop them.The guard pushed..then harder..then told my friend she better relax or this was really going to hurt. She said the guard just pushed harder and harder until she was screaming in pain..and the guard got part way in.Once part way in the guard stopped for a second and then shoved her fingers really,really hard..all the way up..feeling around a little bit. When that was over the guard tried to spread my friends cheeks to see her bum.My friend just clenched right up.They turned her over.On her stomach. And held her down as they got into and searched her behind.
Sorry this was so long.That is pretty much how I heard this story right after it happened! I was self employed..and my friend just showed up..traumatized..in a rental car..and wanted me to go with her right now..drop what I was doing..and go with her to get her car back. Once she was released she just went and rented a car and figured she needed a way to get to her car in the pound..far away! Rent a car..drive to me..and I would go back with her to get her car. She told me this story as she drove to the pound. I have little time for people who get in trouble like this,,drinking..driving..fighting with the cops. I was very hesitant to tell the part about where she was screaming..or screaming in pain..I am not into that either. She did tell me how sore she was there..and I do admit..that did interest,excite me somewhat.
I have since read where female protesters..having found themselves in jail were searched(cavity searched too)
Not a "prison entrance exam"..but one done at a women's jail/facility because the Police station was full.Does that count? True story. I can post it if you want.
Definitely excites me to read and fantasise about it but suspect its awful in reality.
2nd hand info: In the US Federal Prison Medical is very lacking. You have to be dying or bleeding profusely to warrant their attention. On entrance into a prison facility Males are stripped down to nothing by guards. Identifying marks like tattoos and birthmarks are photographed (Genitals can be obscured for modesty) Men are required to bend over spread butt cheeks and cough. apparently its impossible to hide anything in the rectum and cough at the same time. Gaurds are not allowed to touch. Several I am sure have and depending on the Inmate/convict the consequences vary. Anything from Gaurds dying to inmates getting abused.
my friend was male so I don't know anything about Female entrance. I think though that body cavity searches are a thing of the past. I think now days they have a body scanner like airport security uses.
I came across something fairly recently which I must admit was a surprise as I'd never heard of it before. Apparently, until recently female prisoners in the UK were obliged to shave their pubes on admittance. The quotes below aren't mine but something I saved at the time and I can't vouch for how accurate they are:
"My best friend was unfortunately sent to a Young Offenders Centre for 3 months, & on arrival was subjected to the normal strip search etc, which she was ready for, but then during showers & before her medical, she was forced to completely shave herself.
When i checked on line, it seems this is normal practice in the prison service for females, but not for males. That doesnt seem fair."
"I worked in the Prison Service for just over 10 years, & i can tell you, it was decided that all females should shave on entry, so that it made visual inspections & security checks easier. Years ago,officers were allowed to carry out strip searches & conduct cavity searches, if it was suspected a female was hiding something.Then the law changed, allowing ONLY medical staff to conduct cavity searches, & officers were, & are, only allowed to use physical contact for restraint purposes etc. So your friend was shaved so that staff had a clear unobstructed view of her vagina, & could either have her stand astride a mirror or squat & pull her vagina open for them, without having to touch her.
I agree it isnt fair that males do not have to shave, but on strip searching a male, he is simply instructed to lift up his penis, & staff can see straight away if he is hiding something. With females you can not do that.
It is my understanding, that in the Young Offenders Centres, where your friend was, after 3 months girls 16 & over are allowed to grow pubic hair , but only at the front, & the vagina must be kept clear. Girls in custody under 16 are kept hair free.
Hope that helps."
The legislation over here looks to have changed recently and from what I can understand it's no longer required to shave. I remember reading something about Christine Keeler who was jailed for her part in the Profumo Affair in the 1960's being shaved but didn't realise it was a standard practice until recently.
Strip searches are pretty much required in all real jail/prison situations. Prisoners will hide horrible things in really intimate spots.
Forgive me for inserting a dose of reality into a fantasy board, but I can say from extensive first-hand knowledge that prison medicals are no different than physical exams on the street. Medical personnel do not typically become involved in searches ... body cavity or otherwise. In fact, in most cases medical personnel are prohibited by regulation from wandering over into this separate bailiwick of corrections officers. Prison medical exams are usually conducted with the same attention to personal dignity that occurs in on-the-street practice (of course, I'm sure that deviations occur in unsupervised environments). I do recall one instance, though, in which a young male inmate (not a juvenile) "hid" a purloined set of handcuff keys in a most unsavory location. Medical supervision of the "extraction" involved supervising while the uncooperative subject was stripped naked and restrained face-down in a spread-eagle position until biology took its course. That was, of course, quite a memorable event for a medical fetishist.))
I have no experience or knowledge, but do find the concept of cavity search pretty erotic
My sister in-law was booked into jail and upon her booking search she was placed in a side cell with a female officer. She was asked to disrobe, her clothes were searched. she was asked to lift her breasts, then asked to turn around. squat and duck walk to see if anything was visibly in her buttucks, anus, and vagina. she was asked to stand, and spread her feet while the officer visually searched her extrenal vaginal area. She was far from happy about this search. But inmate and officer safety is a must, and it must be done.
I've never been stripsearched
yes had one in a juvie facilty when i was young not a fun experiance.
A female friend of mine was put in a criminal psych.ward in Sweden, for real stupid reasons - she´d been stalking a famous person.
I was one of the very few who wanted to visit her during this time, and was put on a list of acclaimed visitors. I used to go there about twice a month.
This time was the last visit before Christmas and just about everything went wrong; I met a couple of other friends who took me for dinner and a few beers. I sat to long and arrived late to the ward, you have to announce the visits in advance.
The guards were kind of pissed off from the start and said I smelled alcohol, which was true, even if I was far from drunk. They were hesitant about letting me see my friend, but as it was next to Christmas and I behaved properly, they consented.
I left my Christmas presents to the wardens (which they of course opened) emptied my pockets and stepped through the metal detector. It rang. I did it three more times and it was still ringing... I was asked to sit down.
After 10 min. one warden and higher officer returned and said they decided to perform a strip search. If I didn´t submit there was no chance to see my friend. Knowing how devastated she would be if the visit was cancelled I submitted.
In a small room I had to take all my clothes off, they investigated every item. They asked me to raise my arms, lift my penis, turn around and lift my feet. Then I was given my clothes back and told to dress.
The time with my friend was so merry.
There was a program on the History channel I believe called, "Locked up abroad." This one woman was relating to the body cavity searches that were done on her in prison. Of course this was a third world country, and she had been accused of transporting drugs. Evidently in some countries, the laws are pretty strict, and they can do just about anything they want to, to you in prison.
I remember watching a real russian video that was shot in a womans prison. The women had to strip naked in front of male guards during the intake process. It did not show any type of medical exam.
This is a subject that I find quite arousing because of the element of force. In normal circumstances, a patient who seeks medical attention does so voluntarily and if they are presented with a situation that they don't like, they have the right to object or walk out. With a prison cavity search or medical examination, they have no choice but to submit. There is no choice in the sex of the doctor or other attendants, the privacy and exposure of their bodies, the position they have to assume, the presence of guards or other observers, and even the objects that are inserted into them. Does anybody else find this scenario a turn-on?
I´m brazilian and I know that if you want to visit somebody arrested here, you will need to have a complete body search. And there aren´t doctors, only policemen who look for drugs inside anus and vaginas. Sometimes they don´t use gloves.
From what I understand, some airports also have an exam table, for suspicious passengers. Has anyone here been strip or cavity searched at an airport?
I understand that they have to do things different in prison because most of the inmates are not nice guys. I would imagine though that inmates are still treated with with some respect and decency especially when it comes to medicals. Medical people are still professionals whether they work inside, or outside a prison. I assume things would have to be handles differently because some of the prison inmates could become violent. AIDS and STDs are quite common in prisons, and I am sure the prison inmates are tested often. I can imagine if prison inmates were misstreated in North America, you would have the ACLU filling suits, and it would be in all the news.
I remember a story a guy posted many years ago on one of the old Sexyboards forums. I believe the forum was called something like "Womens Prison Exams", or something like that. I was new to the internet at the time so this was probably around 1998-1999. He posted to compare womens exams to what he experienced himself. From what i remember he spent time in a county jail sometime in the 1980's. He said that as part of the intake process that inmates had to submit to a medical exam. Four guys at a time were pulled out of a holding cell and taken down the hallway to a room. There were two female guards, one male guard, and four female nurses at different stations. They were instructed by one of the female guards to "lose all of their clothes". Each of the four was sent to one of the female nurses for various tests - heart, blood pressure etc. One of the stations was STD testing, where a cotton swab was inserted into the penis. He remembers one of the guys at the STD station complaining, at which point one of the female guards walked over and said "what's the problem?". She then stood there and watched the swab being inderted into the guys penis. As they left the room another four guys were waiting in the hallway for their exams. I would think that the female guards and nurses would have seen dozens of naked guys on any given day if what he was relating was true.
I think every prisoner in the UK has to have STD tests,both male and female. Does anyone have any experience with this?
It depends on the prison/location. It can vary from physicals to make sure the prisoner does not have any contagious disease that one can spread to their fellow inmates. It can also be a full cavity search where the prisoners' orifices are probed by hand and instruments.
I do know that women and girls are required to strip naked when entering a facility and are given a visual check of their genitals. A probing has to be authorized in for a cavity search to be done.
My cousin never had an exam the couple times he has gone in. They only do cavity searches if something looks suspicious during the outside look.
I chat online with a woman who has been in prison in both South Carolina and Georgia and she had both strip search and a complete physical everytime. She was in boot camp in Georgia and had to go for a physical before being accepted to make sure she was in good health since it is rigorous, then had another when she arrived. Both were complete with pelvic and rectal exams.
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