I have been wondering if there are negative effects of such things as fisting or using butt plugs. I have used butt pluggs but not very large ones, I want to use larger but I don't want to do perm. damage. Any info would be appreicated.
In my experiences moving to over 3.25" inches in diameter, I have had some foolish moments when I have overdone it. Luckily for me the only consequences were a couple days of pain and discomfort. I certainly learned from those experiences! When I took time instead and didn't rush, I was able to get past what I had perceived as my limits. In fact, I feel that my rectum and anal sphincters are in better condition as a result. Before I started heavy anal play, I used to get hemorrhoids and used to feel like I couldn't fully empty rectum when moving my bowels. Now, I never get hemorrhoids and the exterior tissue of my anus is very soft and fairly smooth. I also feel like I am fully emptying when using the toilet.
Does anyone else feel like stretching as actually improved their rectal and anal functions? I wonder what Switchablesusie or some of the other nurses on here think about my hypothesis.
It's taken me ten years of most pleasurable, though gradual ,stretching to be able to accept an object of 2 1/2" wide . I had stuck at 2" for a long time but found an egg at 2 1/2" and just had to try it . 1/2" of difference is a far greater deal than i thought , eventually after many nights/weeks of trying i succeeded ...INTENSE!!. But so were the consequences . 2-3 days with difficulty passing stool (, day 1 with blood ) , 2-4 weeks not being able to trust a fart and for a while after a lot more "wiping" needed . After many months i'm fairly well back to normal and still have a go with the big egg on special occasions but i certainly wouldn't consider anything bigger, not for a long time !
I fist and stretch all the time but my ass goes back to normal size in about an hour and if I spot for a week I won't be able to fist anymore with out a week of prep stretching first
After leaving my butt plug in for a while, usually get in front of a mirror with my ass in the air and slooooooowly remove the plug. I'm really good at gaping now.
I love stretching with large dildos and nice large butt plugs. A thorough enema before play definitely helps. I love the full feeling and deep penetration.
I only like ass play after a good enema cleanout. I sometimes like to get the largest diameter that will fit, for me it's 2 1/8 inch, and then it feels like its hitting some bones around my ass. But, from reading this far, I understand that with lots of practice, many of you can really open wide. Other times, I like to try to get a long flexible dildo up my ass and into the Sigmoid colon, but this has never worked. So far nothing will flex around the bends of my Sigmoid, not even a colon tube that I recently got (using lots of lube.) Maybe I need an experienced enemate to teach my the ropes, or should I say the dildo penetration.
I'd NEVER insert anything that is over 2 inches in diameter up anyone's anus!
I doubt there is any need for me to do this unless someone stuck their foot up my booty and it has to be retrieved!
One of my co-workers asked another guy at work (who used to run the respiratory dept.) who to call to have her foot removed from his ass....a proctologist or a podiatrist?He was speechless but had a helluva good humor.Never saw a man so speechless in his life!And his face was red to boot. ;D ;D
WaterWoman is sadly misinformed. Although your ass does stretch out a bit and become slightly loose it never looses the ability to close tight. HOWEVER, if you are into fisting and huge ass toys in your butt then you should do some kegel exercises every now and then to keep your sphincter in shape. It is just like any other muscle so take care of it and NEVER rush the stretching process. If you do, you can do some permanent damage and yes, end up in diapers
I've been stretching for a while now, the biggest thing I have inserted is about 2,5".. This was in the evening, and the next morning I felt just as horny as I were the evening before, and therefore I had to do some stuffing and stretching. My ass was just as tight as it was before I did anything anal play the night before.
So as long as you keep the stretching in normal forms, and not the extreme forms it will go back to around the same "tightness" it was before you started:)
Love this site btw;)
Yes you can. But you shouldn't.
They can definitely be stretched. Take a look over at tube8.com and search for "fisting". There's one about a lady "giving a lesson" as I recall and her hole looks really stretched out from a lot of use. 'Great site by the way.
This is the second post in a row I've read from you that references tube8, which is pretty crummy as far as *tube sites go, so either you work for 'em or you need some education on internet porn :)
Yeah, of course they can be stretched. The argument is about if there will be any permanent damage, and so far evidence says "no" in the overwhelming majority, including personal experiences. It probably looks stretched out because it was getting stretched out which is the point behind such videos to begin with! Good stuff, aint it? :D
No. You can't.
Kirk Johnson also doesn't have to wear diapers. Neither does Ty, or any of the other people in to holes big enough to fit footballs (American) in.
The only way you can really over stretch things is if you tear something... But, like Switchablesusie said before, it's no more harmful than a gymnast doing gymnastics if you've done proper training and exercise.
Kirk Johnson has definitely overstretched his anus, so, yes, it is possible. That hole can't contract to a rosebud at all - it looks like a mare's vagina!
But it must hurt like hell to get it like that, and you'd have to be high on something or other to do it, or else enjoy the pain for its own sake (some of us do!).
For myself, I find stretching very, very erotic and do it as much as I can. It's easier to get large objects out than in, and a good way to begin training is to select a bulb syringe a bit bigger than you can comfortably accommodate. Lube the anus well, and the bulb, too. Then collapse the empty bulb completely with a firm squeeze, and place your finger over the nozzle tip. The partial vacuum inside the bulb will make it stay collapsed even though you are no longer squeezing it. Now slide this much smaller object completely inside your rectum, leaving only the nozzle outside your body. It must be inside the inner sphincter ring for this to work. Once inside, take your finger off the nozzle tip and sort of suck your abdomen in.
You will hear the bulb expand with a dull pop to its full size, and will feel the fullness in your rectum. Again put your finger over the nozzle tip and bear down, but without urgency. You will find you can expel the thing if you go slow. And the last little bit is quite a rush!
Of course, if you can't get it out, it's not a trip to the ER! Just take you finger off the nozzle and bear down again. This time the bulb will collapse again and you can expel it with ease.
I've been fisted as well as fisted lots of times. The idea is to ove with your partner... not pushing opr forcing... I use J-lube, K-lube, and crisco as well as sometimes butter to make the glide easy. I have not had trouble with tearing or perminant damage. In fact if I don't do any butt play for a week or two... I have to start all over and work my way up if I want to play with some large ass toy~ You know.... use lots of lube and go slow~ I've known some heavy duty fisters who play that way only... they are not young bucks or young ladies.... they don;t wear diapers either~ You know educate yourself and play smart~
Don't think you can overstretch but I have heard stories of anus snapping! Though granted I think that was when someone tried to put the traffic cone in to the hilt.
Its a muscle, exercise it well and do clenches and it will serve well. I used to have an issue with a "loose" end shall we say, but was taught by a very good friend of my how to do sphincter exercises and now I can stretch from nothing to about4.5 inch diameter quite comfortably. hoever, you do need plenty of lube and to build upto it - it aint gonna go that far in one movement!
definitely! & some are very turned on by it. I agree with all who brought up exercising. If you're going to stretch you must exercise.
i thought i should weigh in on this subject since i have direct knowledge in the subject and there seems to be some confusion, and it is an important question....
can you over stretch your anus? yes if you force it and TEAR THE MUSCLES.....however the colon and anus while delicate is by no means fragile....
there is a lot of folks walking around in the world with the ability to open their anus to what seem incredable size and have no damage and still be water tight....
let me first say that the anus and colon are made of muscle tissue..and every muscle needs to be stretched, exercised, and rested to remain healthy... atheletes dont ruin their muscles with strecthing and exercise, quite the opposite--- continual training yields world class atheletes! and the colon and anus is no different,,
the problems occur when overdoing it! the anus is highly enriched with nerves and will let you know if you are over doing it unless you are using drugs or alcohol,
susie accurately stated that no one just does the splits,, they must train and condition those muscles first, a process that can take a lot of time and continued effort...
a person has to want it and be willing to put forth some effort, butt the rewards are significant! all those nerves i mentioned earlier will reward you with some of the most intense pleasure sensations that could probably never even could imagine!!!
training is the key,,, toys and time.....beginning with what ever size is most comfortable and teach those muscles to relax... then increase the size gradually probably over a period of weeks or months....world class atheletes train for their lifetime to get world class... and this is no different!
the colon is not at all like wet toilet paper, it is in fact a multi layered muscular tube capable of stretching along both legnth and its width and contracting to contain its contents... and its mobile within the abdomine... yes its attached but not firmly and can move around quite a bit,,, the danger comes from using sharp objects, things with a point can pierce thru the colon leading to serious, life threatening complications...
is it possible to take a toy in deep or a fist past the elbow?
definately yes, again with practice...deep play involves both the anus and the colon and you have to learn the anatomy and nature of both for it to happen...and you have to get used to all the new sensations that come from deep play...
the anus has 2 mucles= like concentric doughnuts ,,,inner and outer= voluntary and involuntary,,, will and emotion.....
once you get past the anus you are into the rectum, a chamber about 6 to 8 inchs long that runs up the back of the pelvic bowl near the spine...this chamber as a few folds or valves created by various suspension muscles...at the top of the rectum is another valve or sphincter before entering the sigmoid colon...
the sigmoid colon loops around inside often toward the right and continues forward toward the belly button before making a turn towards the left side of the body.. this the area where most folks run into trouble when trying to go deep...muscles in this area are mostly emotionally controlled... fear, anger, stress, all can increase contractions and cause difficulty, and everyones anatomy is slightly different,, and the sensations you get once you leave the rectum and go deeper can be completely alien.... :o
some folks describe colon and anal play as a meditation...in part because you have to be in the right frame of mind to be sucessful.. you are in an area where normally things happen automatically...and in part because most of the neuro-transmitters used in the brain are actually manufactured by the colon....so stimulating the colon increases production of these chemicals... this often results in an altered state of mind...a high so to speak! :)
Thanks for answering my question. I'm not at all surprised by all the letters after your name. Only someone with an education in the medical field could know as much as you do about anatomy and medicine.
I would like to ad my two cents :-)
I have been playing with large toys/stretching off and on for several years and if anything, my anus is "better", not worse for the wear. ...muscle exercise etc. A colonic therapist did make a remark about the appearance of my anus, so I guess it does look different in some respect.
At times I have worked my ass for a couple hours at time (after enemas of course) and I return to normal with an hour or so after finishing. I do enjoy being loose and distended afterwards though :-)
I haven't had the pleasure myself, but a woman I knew many years ago enjoyed fisting/forearming men and she in turn enjoyed being fisted/stretched. Guess who got me started!
Switchablesusie,Your posts continue to amaze me. You are obviously a very intelligent woman and have a way above average knowledge of the human body. Have you studied medicine or otherwise work in the medical community?
Your posts continue to amaze me. You are obviously a very intelligent woman and have a way above average knowledge of the human body. Have you studied medicine or otherwise work in the medical community?
Thank you for your compliments.
I have a BSN, MSN and RN. I was trained as an OR nurse. I practiced for over ten years in NYC before retiring. While I enjoy some pain and suffering (giving and getting) in S&M, in real life, I am a softy and seeing a lot of human frailty finally got to me despite the fact that I loved the excitement of the pressure, and blood and guts at the time. I keep my license active and temp occasionally for doctors in their private offices, but I no longer enjoy hospital practice.
I like to be the one to control the levels of pain people experience in my environment! ;D ;D ;D ;D
JB: Obviously you have to know yourself and your partner when fisting.
As I have stated here before, I have fisted my husband up to my elbows, and have gotten up under his ribcage (yes, you can feel the bones from the inside) but this was worked up to over a long period of time with a lot of practice. I should also say that I am only 115 pounds and I don't have a weight-lifter's size forearm. The colon wall is also not weak like wet toilet paper by any means, and it will accommodate a forearm, at least my husband's accommodates mine, and we both love the sensations it produces both physically and emotionally. As far as your physical concerns are concerned, you can stop worrying. Fisting is no more dangerous to those who have worked up and practiced it than gymnastics is to a gymnast. No one learns to do side to side or front to back splits in an afternoon. It takes time and effort. The same goes for fisting. It is quite remarkable what the body can be taught to do with practice.
By the way, after a minute or two, my husbands anus is just like it was before we fisted and he can hold an enema just fine if I want him to.
After browsing around on the web, I came across a picture of a guy not only being fisted anally, but the other guy was in up to his elbow!
I've heard talk about this, know some gay guys, so I know that this is 'for real'.
Don't know how they can do that, especially when the rectum, or lower intestine takes a turn about 8 inches in, then a couple more turns after that.
I would imagine that when going in that deep, they are straightening out those natural turns or curves in the intestines.
Naturally an 'arm' can't bend to follow those curves, so it's got the be the intestines that move or straighten out to accommodate an arm going all the way in up to the elbow.
Since this seems to be becoming more and more popular in the gay community, I would assume that the intestines return back to their normal state after being straightened out like that.
Seems extremely 'dangerous' to me! Fisting is one thing, taking an arm up to someones elbow is something entirely different.
Is fisting really all that much different than say taking an extra large dildo? I would say so... Where a dildo is smooth and typically has a rounded tip, a hand is much different.
I have heard that the intestinal wall has the consistency of wet toilet paper. It wouldn't take much for even a finger to poke a hole in it, not to mention 'five fingers', typically up to a wrist, and especially any fingers that has untrimmed fingernails!
I've also heard of what's referred to as 'punch fisting', I would assume after being stretched open anally by sliding in a hand in a straight, fingers out position, taking that further after the muscles have loosened up enough, actually closing the hand into a real fist position and entering that way.
I know of private clubs consisting of all gay members who's only interest is in fisting. Again, something that seems to be getting more popular in society and among the gay community.
So basically 'yes', you can over stretch your anus, of course that is of the opinion that hasn't had a fist up to the elbow up his ass!
Whether those that engage in such activities have any after effects, or any residual issues of having regular bowl movements after such activity, I sincerely don't know!
I suspect that even attempting in such activities, that there has been countless trips to an ER, but the practice still continues, with more and more people taking fisting as extreme anal stimulation.
I would guess that when done right, and safely, with someone of experience, there wouldn't be lasting after effects. If there was, I'm sure this practice would discontinue, and not actually gain in popularity.
I had communicated with one female slave some years ago that used to get fisted anally, and told me that for a day or two afterwards, she would have to wear a diaper.
I would suspect she enjoyed this at the time she was receiving it, but is that pleasure worth needing to have to wear a diaper afterwards?
I guess everybody has their individual kinks, so as enema enthusiasts, who would ourselves appear to be extreme to others in society, I guess we should really be the last to judge others and their kinks.
Just hope everybody plays 'safe', and extend that courtesy to others not to judge them, but to wish whatever activity they engage in, that it does them no harm.
yes you can i know some one and now he the boss at work
Your question always worries me that's why I never use anything larger than my largest butt plug maybe 2in in dia. I find that after anal play its difficult to hold back farts embarrassing when you work in the public ???
In the past I have used the large inflatable nozzle. It stretched me quite a bit and I was not able to hold it in. I would just slip out when I got full. I later switched to a smaller inflatable and on one occasion, I was not able to hold in the nozzle. It just popped out followed with a mess. I have since stopped using the large nozzle and has since been able to retain the small nozzle. Your anus does return to somewhat normal.
I had no difficulty inserting large homemade nozzles when I was younger,but once I reached age sixty,I had a harder time doing so.Perhaps it is because the skin is not as fexible as it once was.Every time I try using a large nozzle,I find the pain is greater than it use to be,even if I start out with a small nozzle and work my way up to a bigger one,my anus will only strech so far without pain.
Let the good times flow.w/m73yrs/Western Ma
This is how it was put to me once: Your anus is a muscle, your arms have muscles. If you stretch and exercise you arms everyday one day they will not just stop working. If you stretch and exercise you anus everyday it will not just stop working one day. Use safe and sane play with you anus and it will provide you with a lifetime of pleasure and fun. Drive a greyhound bus up your ass and you will end up in the hospital. I have never been fisted anally or vaginally, but I have taken pretty large dildos and plugs. So large that I thought they would never go in, and sometime they didn't go in on the first try. But practice makes perfect and if you enjoy it and its fun play on without fear. Just use your head. Oh yeah and use more lube that you think youll need, better safe than sorry.
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