A female is required to be present when a male doctor examines a female, is is true that a nurse be in the room when a male gets examined by a female doctor.
A G, I can understand where you are coming from. However, I had a female (friend) dermatologist, 3 skin cancers this decade, and everytime I was with the doctor, there was always a nurse with us. Now, the nurse was typically notating in my chart what the doc was describing as she examined my epidermis. And, too, going a little further than normal, there was no discomfort for me, or sense of a 'trust' issue at stake.
Current internist is a woman, also a friend, and she is a gr8 doc. Sometimes there has been a nurse with us, and others not so. Again, I've never felt anything but the best of medical care. And, if I felt something untoward, or disquieting, then I would probably seek out another physician.
I've always had a tendency towards friends as my physician, as I feel that they have more at stake in my health, vs. somebody who doesn't know me from Adam...
Now, go out and make a gr8 evening of it A G; you are in a wonderful country to do just that...
And, I might add, we've not seen something written by you in quite some time. One can always hope that the other will take pen to hand, and ...
Just before the end of the year, we had unused health funds that would disappear if not used, and so at the urging of my wife I went back to the walk in clinic near my office for a full check up, cholesterol check, etc... I can confirm that at least for this chain of clinics, the chaperone is a policy. Near the end the doctor left the room and returned shortly bringing with her the hot nurse. (See the thread about my crazy week in the injection forum.)
She was there to witness both the turn and cough hernia check as well as the prostate check.
I think maybe doctors have an unhealthy fear of lawyers. From a normal patient's perspective, bringing in a witness for the most embarrassing portion of the exam is not exactly ideal.
As for me on the other hand, well I'm not normal- I'm here right? I certainly didn't mind the hot nurse watching!
The chaperone is to protect both the doctor and the patient- but especially the doctor. Then there is a witness to the propriety of the exam. Many a doctor has come to grief by not being chaperoned when examining a patient of the opposite sex.
Once this kind of mutual expectation starts, where does it end? Patients don't trust doctors unless there is a witness present who, for possible legalistic purposes can corroborate or disavow what might or might not have happened between doctor and patient. But then a doctor does the same to corroborate his version of events ... but the main thing is that there already is a suspicion of distrust merely by setting up the chaperone/witness. Because that is all the chaperone is supposed to function as, as a witness. As if medical procedures are some sort of potential antagonistic legal battle. As if the expectation of malfeasance is ever present when a patient sees a doctor.
How did things come to this where it has now apparently become the routine? I can understand that younger people can be comforted by having someone accompany them whom they trust, since they do not understand what might be happening - though even here on the forum you can read about experiences of members who were utterly mortified by having family members present during medical exams.
It doesn't matter if patients truly want this chaperoning. Good for them then. But what I find remarkable is the way it has seemingly become the most routine way of doing things.
I don't like to bring up personal feelings, but in this instance I would say that if a doctor thought he needed a witness to protect himself from any unwarranted charges I might make against him/her, then I would be quite disappointed, miffed at his take on my personality and probably on some level insulted that he thought me capable of lying about my medical dealings with him.
And when taken to one manner of looking at a chaperone situation, who's to say that having someone in the employ of the physician is not to the patient's detriment? After all, it would not be in the nurse/chaperone's interest to have anything bad to say about their employer. So therefore i surmise the point is to protect the physician.
Nope, I have to disagree with you on this one AG...
This does often sound quite titillating, especially having two females with one observing and the other performing an exam on a male. It's the stuff of play exam fantasies ...
But on another level I can't help but remark that this tendency towards providing a chaperone shows a considerable level of distrust. The word alone is reminiscent of 19th century literature with all its repressions and convoluted sense of propriety and suspicion when it comes to contact between persons, especially between the two genders.
Doesn't it strike anyone that in real life such measures tend to erode trust between doctor and patient rather than enhance it?
I have been examined by a couple of female doctors and also two female PAs. I was always alone in the room with them for the entire exam including genital and rectal exams. At my most recent physical a couple of months ago I saw a new fmale doctor that had just joined my regular doctor's practice. After she completed the non pants down part she excused herself and said she would be back in a moment to finish. When she returned she brought a nurse with her and said she was ready to do my genital and prostate exam. She sat on a stool in front of me and told me to drop my pants. The nurse was standing behind her. While she was examining my penis and testicles I was face to face with the nurse, who was looking down while the doctor did her thing. Then she asked me to turn around and bend over the table for the prostate exam. When she was done she told me I could pull up my pants and told the nurse she could leave. I don't know if the reason for the nurse was her policy or if the office had changed its policy. Anyway I was turned on by having two females looking at my genitals and bare butt.
Hi Sarahgyn. Just an interesting observation. In the correctional, (prison), setting, a male doctor will not examine a male inmate without someone to proctor the exam even if safety is not a high concern.
...I can spend some extra time with a cute guys testicles
Where do I sign up? :)
in busy practices it's as much about having a nurse or assistant available for traffic flow as any other reason. If you can move from room to room efficiently and deal with minimal interaction with each patient you rack up the charges, it's a volume thing....all about money in many cases. Outside of that male doctors in particular are in fear of charges of innapropriate conduct. That's a somewhat biased quirk of our society. If you are a male doctor you have to assume you may at some point run into a patient who has lawsuits and dollars in their eyes, and though they are nto after it specifically...your license. On the flip side I can spend some extra time with a cute guys testicles ( I have not had a male patient though since residency ) or give an extra long breast or pelvic exam to an attractive female patient.....and there is little to no risk of accusations or of anyone taking them as seriously as it would be if I were male. Sorry ladies but it's a reality
I've been treated by female Drs, PAs, NPs, and nurses. (I'm male). Never have had a second person in the room.
Whilst never examined by a female doctor, I have had buttock injections with pants all the way down from female nurse with a female receptionist present. Perhaps the embarrassment was intentional to take my mind off the shots.
The clinic I go to has a sign in every exam room informing the patient that they may request another person to be present for breast or pelvic exams.
I have had one physical done by a female doctor and there was no chaperone present. She did a full exam including penis, testicles,hernia, and rectal.
I see a female doctor and/or female NP. We are always alone.Once had abdominal xray with cute tech, when she told me to remove my pants, I got hard as a rock, she said "that's Ok, this only takes a minute".
I know that this posting is mostly referring to exams, but I wanted to comment that most of the "walk-ins" that I have experienced were during procedures. The impression that I get is that if your in the hospital for any kind of procedure, just about any staff may freely walk in on you no matter what is exposed. I've had 2 cystoscopies (sticking a tube into my bladder through my penis), a sigmoidoscopy and a couple of colonoscopies and during all 5 procedures people seemed to come and go without concern that I was exposed.
The worst one was my second cystoscopy when they left me on the table on my back, exposed from the waist down, with the door open, waiting for the procedure to begin. A female staff member walked by the open door and looked at me and smiled. She was probably trying to be supportive, but having someone smile at you when you are a teenager and not wearing pants is just very discomforting...
never had a chaperone during exams, sometimes a nurse would walk in but usually not during exposure..
I had my testicles ultrasounded by female with no chaperone. The receptionist and doc both took some convincing I did not need one lol.
I had a female doctor examine me once, with no one else in the room. She didn't do a genital exam, though.:(
I've gottem several physicals from my female doctor and one physical from her female NP. There has never been another person in the exam room.
no, I have been examined by a female doctor without a nurse present
depending on clinic rules i think because I went in for a prostate exam and a female dr and female nurse came in when she told me to drop my pants i looked behind me and they both started at my butt
I don't think it's a requirement. I think some female doctors are more comfortable with a nurse present. Since I'm in the military, I've had female doctors bring in a male chaperone on occasion.
Its ok for me. But no nurse i know, i hope. :D
The entire issue of chaperones is so confusing and inconsistent that it makes the topic nothing short of hilarious.
Truly amazing how blockheaded people can be when it comes to @};- Equality Between The Genders.... @};-
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I like female doctor and nurse in room. I am exibicionist
My current female physician always has a female chaperon with her during the genital and rectal exams. It's corporate policy. The doctor I saw before her, a female PA, examined me alone.
I think they are afraid of some BS lawsuit
In most situations there is no legal requirement for a woman to be present when a male dr. examines a female patient, and when a female dr. examines a male patient there is also no legal requirement for a male to be present. Or anyone else to be present.
I have looked into this matter thoroughly in the US, and there is no insurance requirement either.
There are however local policies that individual doctors or practices may put in place for whatever reason. Often when they do they claim either a legal or insurance requirement makes them do so, but that is not true.
Personally I have had every variation that you can imagine, but the majority of the time I see a female doctor and there is no one else present, except to assist and that only happens occasionally.
When you join the military they check your testicles for hard spots. I had to wait for a male that worked there to come in so the female dr could do this.