I have tried e-stim once and found it too painful. Can anyone tell me where I went wrong? Would love to try it again.
I use a TENS machine and either pads, a bi-polar anal probe or a combination of both. I start off at "pleasurable" and almost always end up at the point of "pleasurably painful" which I gues is not true "pain" as such but feels incredibly intense.
I don't consider myself as being "in to" pain at all but when I estim I work up to very intense (for me) levels that I couldn't possibly start out at.
I think it really just depends on where/how it's connected, and how hard you push it. For me, it starts out as pleasurable, but there's a definite line where it turns "sort of painful", and then "definitely painful"!
First, it really helps to have a good sexual TENS unit power box that produces really erotic feelings, rather than a simple medical TENS unit. The ET-312 is the best in the world, but some of the 2nd-tier runners-up are probably pretty good too. Any electro can be painful if too much power is applied. To be pleasureful, you have to start on low power and gradually turn it up until it feels very erotic and sexually compelling. If you feel you would like to fuck -- or it feels like you already are -- then you've reached the pleasureful area.
I demonstrate estim on women every month at parties. None of them have ever experienced it before, and are usually at least a bit apprehensive. Almost invariably, when I turn on the unit, the first words out of their mouth is "OMG". With some experimentation to find what they like best, they usually have an orgasm. Adding some other stimulation simultaneously brings it on sooner, and stronger.
E-Stim can be as pleasurable or as painful as the person wants. I have patients who tant to have organism and patients who want to feel pain.
I personally had great organism with it, but have had both men and women want pain and have screamed in pain. It all bepends what you want
I dont think it is but we have just really started to try it, it depends where it`s used i think too
I have used the insertable type several times and I could take it or leave it. It usually wasn't all that painful but also wasn't all that enjoyable.
Good electrode connection and low skin resistance is vital to good conduction and less painful electrical stimulation. I would use a quality tens pad or some conductive gel if working with metal electrodes. Start slow and dont push trying to take too much voltage at one time. Getting your body conditioned to the electricity and then ramping it up is the best way to go about this.
One time me and my friend found his dads physical therapy shocking thing and we messed around with it, It was actually pretty fun we would stick it on our faces and turn it on and it would make our faces twitch or where ever we put it, I don’t know if that’s the same thing as this but I felt good it didn’t hurt.
I have recently received e-stim and find it very enjoyable. I had a vaginal dildo/electrode it was set to pulse it was enjoyable. As we progressed she hit me with several hard shocks that were painful but nothing worse than pain I have had before. It was a great turn on
If you are wondering what it feels like, physical therapists use it frequently to help folks with muscle and tissue pain. It tingles and forces blood to the spot to soothe and heal...it also engorges and stimulates the genitals so you can have a hands free orgasm....it is a great device to tease and deny.
LordZ try a little light bondage with a vibrator, then after she comes once, reintroduce the e stim on an easy setting. just a suggestion but going for 2 might make it easier to get it back on the menu
Slow is usually good. I had started it using it long before my girlfriend. I find the slower out I start the better the orgasm is in the end. I have also tended to use other stimulants, such a cooling or warming lube etc. For me also using a penis pump works well because as the current flows I cannot move as much as I could without, and it makes every jolt more intense. As far as my Girlfriend, I made the mistake of not letting her experiment with it first. I ended up shocking her twice and she will no longer touch the thing. I really would like to be able to get her to enjoy it, as I hear having sex with 2 unipolar devices can be amazing.
I can vouch for e-stim as being totally worth the effort. Once you take the time to figure out what feels best for your body through electrode type/placement and power box settings, its amazing the control you can have over your body. You are able to play it like an instrument, accentuating or prolonging the highs. I really love what it does for me. You simply have to approach it with an open mind. Done correctly for pleasure, e-stim should never hurt. Let us know if do get to try and we'd be glad to help.
. . . A sudden move can mean pain if you pull a connector off . . .
. . . A sudden move can mean pain if you pull a connector off . . .
Thats true hackjuan except for certain models - my Sanitas for instance will immediately cut the power if it detects a separation of a pad or an electrode to eliminate the 'hot spots' referred to by others.
Lilla, my husband and I have four different e-stim units and many electrodes, some for surface contact and several for vaginal, anal and urethral insertion, and I can say with confidence that you don't have to worry about e-stim harming you if you use a real e-stim unit. DO NOT use a home-made device.
The worst that will happen is that it will hurt like hell if the current is turned up too high, and you will get a jolt you will remember for a LONG time, but it will NOT leave any permanent injury. As soon as the e-stim is turned off or the wires are disconnected, your pain or pleasure will stop.
One of the beauties of e-stim, is you can use it for real torture if you want and the subject will not have any injury to show for it. On the other side of the coin, e-stim can feel absolutely wonderful if you use an appropriate electrode and slowly raise the current and control it yourself until your partner knows what you like.
One caveat--keep the electrodes below the waist.
Use a good electroconductive gel.
You can add a few grains of salt to a small amount of KY, astroglide or other water soluble lube, but it really is not necessary.
Most defiantly if you go to high on the settings to fast even for a well seasoned veteran starting a new session it can be painful, as well as so the tell me does it bite when an electrode falls out. but some pain can be good and pleasurable.
I use the PES system and was very nervous when I first tried it - especially as I used it aaply pain to men the majority of the times I had used it.
Then I remembered the key word was "stimulation" and that I was in control of te power levels.
Start at the lowest setting and see what works for you.
E-Stim need not be at all painful, I use them to relieve pain in fact. It is a question of how they are set, and nearly any box has at least some control of the electrical waveform generated. You do not say what you are using, but for a medical TENS unit the solution would be to turn the pulse width down and set the frequency low (3-8Hz). Do not use burst or modulation modes use the normal mode.
JB is quite correct that external placement like pads tends to be uncomfortable at times. There are two reasons for this. One is that the skin offers high resistance to current flow and when the current is turned up too high, pads can actually burn the skin. The other is poor quality electrode pads. The solution to both is the use of high quality electrodes that are new and fresh, and use a tiny bit of conductive gel in the center of each pad.
Start at low intensity and turn it up slowly as you accommodate to it. If you use the settings I recommend, it will feel like a gentle bumping at low intensity. Turn up slowly to a level that is comfortable and feels good. It can, absolutely feel good. With practice and experimentation, even a simple TENS unit can be made to feel like a great many different things. Different pulse widths and frequencies feel entirely different. Start with the bumping first, it is as gentle as stroking and if the pads are properly placed it can be used to twitch muscles in some very interesting ways.
You will find that with all the accessories and/or attachments made for the power boxes, that any 'internal' device will certainly be a lot more pleasurable as compared to those external devices.
Internal devices allows for nice pleasurable contractions of the muscles, providing the setting isn't too high.
External devices will give a 'pins and needles' effect, much more uncomfortable, unless you're into that sort of thing. But for sure, can be painful.
Combine one internal, and one external device, and you will find that the sensations from the external device, will over power the feelings from the internal device.
And for sure, always start at a low setting. These little power boxes, even running off a 9 volt battery are powerful!
With an external device, you 'will' experience a lot of pain. But with an internal device, remember that current is contracting muscles. Besides the pain involved, I have no doubt that some of these power boxes and certain attachments, cranked up 'too high' could possibly tear a muscle, maybe even break a bone. The contractions can be that powerful!
And common sense, keep it below the waist, unless you have those special attachments that won't pass the current 'across' your chest. These power boxes are all based off a TENS unit, which is made to penetrate deep into muscle tissue. Which means that it could interrupt your heart rhythm, or stop it all together.
I can't speak to anal electrodes very well, but a lot of people like smaller ball shaped electrodes that they can position against the prostate for direct stimulation there.
As for penis electrodes, I've found that hollow conductive rubber tubing with thicker gauge lead-free solder inside is great. I usually make two loops around the the base of the penis and then make a loop just below the glans with a half loop running up the frenulum and over the urethra. This ends up looking like a balloon hat you'd make with animal making balloons.
For females there is a ton of variation for what works. Many like vaginal stimulation only with electrodes like P.E.S. Electro's Little Big Man (LBM) or the periform electrode. The other alternative is tens pads placed on or near the clit. For direct clitoral stimulation a lot of women like small clamps like a bobby pin covered in conductive rubber to hold the clit between the prongs. This is usually paired with a monopole electrode on the g-spot.
In most cases you can buy ready made electrodes to do this but many people go the Do-it-yourself route so the can customize things for what feels best for their body. One woman was frustrated with vaginal electrodes for her G-spot and ultimately made the best electrode for her out of a ping pong ball glued to a teaspoon with the handle insulated so only the ladle part was conductive. This gave her the pressure on her g-spot she needed while focusing all of the sensation there. This electrode paired with the clit clip style mentioned earlier gave her massive orgasms.
Starting out slow is good advice but the most important thing is making sure you have good contact with your skin and conductivity with the area you are stimming. You want to be sure your electrode is making full contact with your skin, paired with some water based lube mixed with a bit of baking soda to increase conductivity. If your trodes are making good contact, you've got some lube, and they still hurt, they may simply be too small.
Remember, the larger the surface area of an electrode, the more diffuse the sensation. With monopolar electrodes another thing to consider is the relative size difference & conductivity of your electrodes. If you have two different (mono) electrodes of varying sizes, you tend to feel the current at the smaller electrode (or the one with less surface area) more strongly.
What kind of electrodes/stim box are you using? Let me know and I'd be glad to offer some suggestions for placement and help you troubleshoot. Don't get discouraged, it's not supposed to hurt, and it's worth the effort.
You have to start at the lowest level, than increase slowly,
when you begin to feel something at the same rythm of the box,
increase a little bit more, and now let your mossels work at each pulse, once you accustomed, increase again so slowly as before.
When you stop FIRST switch off the power.
What brand is your box? what type of accessories do you use?