STUDY: Vaginal orgasm doesn't exist...

The vaginal orgasm doesn't exist - it's the clitoris that holds the key to female pleasure, study claims

Http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2783791/The-vaginal-orgasm-doesn-t-exist-s-clitoris-holds-key-female-pleasure-study-claims.html

My wife just read the article and disagrees with the penetration not giving an orgasm. She turned 50 in April and she orgasms with penetration, g spot and clitoral easier now than anytime in her life. Sex is good!!!

That is total bullshit!!! As a woman of 52, I have had orgasms from pentration my whole life. More so in the last 15 years.....now I have started to expierence the elusive anal orgasm. And recently with a very special friend I expierence a totally non physical orgasm....never thought that was possible...but it happened!!! Medical research??? Is this the first time they are wrong?

What a load of tripe !!!!

I have at least 3 vaginal orgasms everyday aswell as anal ones.All by myself (as I'm single) and sometimes with toys too.Penetration,G spot,clit stimulation all work for me.Even urethral sounds bring me to the edge these days .

Oh gosh, any statement like that is of course bollox - both by common sense and scientific standards. No study could possibly define what every single one of 3.5 billion females worldwide feels or doesn't feel.

On the other hand, there is a percentage of women who cannot orgasm (and not for lack of trying) unless they receive clitoral stimulation as well. And some of them do feel inferior because they just won't have that climax from penetration alone. I think it is important to assure them that there's absolutely nothing wrong with them. People are just different, turned on and off by different things, and climax through different methods. There are more ways to come in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy...

I disagree with this study, as everyone is unique and many females are able to achieve orgasm in multiple ways. Personally I am able to achieve orgasm through clitoral stimulation, and while not as consistently, vaginal penetration as well.

The only thing that I agree with, and not for the reasons listed, is that there is no need to specify what type of orgasm a female has. No matter how she achieves it, it is just simply a female orgasm, regardless of how it happened. I've always just said I've had an orgasm and never defined it as a "clitoral orgasm" or "vaginal orgasm". An orgasm is an orgasm and they all feel good! 😃

If you take a minute to click on the link and actually read the article, it suggests that of course orgasms from penetration are a fairly common occurrence, but they rely on the arousal and stimulation of the internal structure of the clitoris. Hence the MRI's of the pelvic region in the study. The internal area of the clitoris is stimulated through the vaginal walls during penetrative sex. That is why they are saying that a vaginal orgasm is technically still a clitoral orgasm. The same goes for anal. In fact, even the g-spot might just be the erectile tissue of part of the internal clitoris bulging into the vaginal wall when engorged.

Clitoral stimulation, as this article refers to it, is not only when the visible portion of the clitoris, the glans/ outer nub is stimulated. Clitoral stimulation also happens through penetration, depending on how adjacent the internal majority of the clitoris is to the vagina, whether or not the clitoris is aroused, and the angle of penetration. The clitoris therefore tends to determine whether an orgasm is achieved through penetration, and this is why each woman's own personal anatomy determines the types of stimulation she prefers.

Totally call bullshit on this one. I have had orgasms, good hard pussy pulsing mucsle spasm orgasims, when there was no possibility of clitoral stimulation.

PatientMe, the "pussy pulsing" you mention consists not only of the kegel muscles' contractions/spasms, but actually also involves the sensations of the internal part of the clitoris.

Further reading:

Internal clit http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;msg=468696

My orgasms don't originate in my vagina but rather from deep anal regions.. my sigmoid itself.. YES it's true, thanks to misrouted nerves I was born with. I do however squirt and cum even though I dont eperience vaginal orgasms. but only during deep anal insertion.

...The clitoris therefore tends to determine whether an orgasm is achieved through penetration, and this is why each woman's own personal anatomy determines the types of stimulation she prefers.

I'm wondering if, regarding vaginal intercourse, would the man's anatomy (including the curvature of the penis) matter in terms of how likely a woman is to have an orgasm. Seems kind of obvious, I guess.

It does not exist for me. I can only orgasm with clitoral stimulation...at least up until now...there's always hope and I have no objection to testing different methods...;-)

What follows below is from my personal experiences with my current SO, and is fairly graphic. If you are not into that, you may wanna skip over this... The short answer is she sure does have different types of orgasms.

My SO is very orgasmic when she is excited. She can just about get off on just mental stimulation alone. On more than one occasion she has gotten off while sicking me off totally dressed. And there is no mistaking it. Her entire body tenses up and quivers. You can see it and you can feel it in her mouth and her hands. We have a waterbed and she shakes the entire bed.

When I get her off, I generally will start with inserting one finger and a gentle massage of her G spot. until she gets good and wet. I can literally feel that region deep inside of her start to swell. Than I insert another finger and keep on it until she pops very deep and hard. Than I move on to her clit. She pops easier there, and her orgasm has a lighter and kind of faster feel to it. It is a very different physical response than being in her vagina. And last I will start to slowly snake a finger up her ass. By now it is nice and wet down there and her ass will snap at my finger. I slowly tease it until it is all the way deep in her. Sometimes I need to slide it back out and play with her little sphincter but after a couple of rounds of that she comes from that, and again, the orgasm has a very different charterer. This one is more of a deep, guttural grunting kind of thing, and she can take a lot more of it. It seems to be a very deep and intense sensation that kind of radiates out. About this time if I take my other hand and I run it over her clit and into her vagina and rub the whole area back and forth I can occasionally get her to squirt. Sometimes she is just too overcum by than to do it, but if she is going to do it that is when it will happen.

So, if you ask me, there sure are different kinds of female orgasms, and while they are all orgasms, with my current SO at any rate the do in fact all seem to have their own character. I would go so far as to bet if I just heard us having sex, I could tell exactly what I was doing to elicit that sound.

BTW, where do these researchers get funding and test subjects. I need to get involved in this research (smile)

This is so subjective. I know I have seen women orgasm from ultrasound exams, and more importantly from recto-vaginal exams without ever touching there clitoris.

A young woman I lived with had a vulva that was farther back and under than most, with the result that in missionary position, the shaft of the penis inevitably rubbed her clitoris. She had orgasms, many and early, when penetrated. She mentioned that some men found it difficult to get inside her because the location of her vagina was farther back and the angle was unusual.

Neither of us had ever heard of a g-spot, but I would guess that because of location and angle it would not have been stimulated in missionary position, but might have been in doggy or knee chest positions. Now, as for the position she and I invented, the "ladder, chandelier and sheep dog" position, that is another story entirely. Today, of course, with modern chandeliers so flimsy and so flimsily secured to the ceiling structure, and also due to PETA's insane proscription of many activities with animals that were once widely practiced in rural, agricultural settings, the "ladder, chandelier and sheep dog" position is no longer feasible. Besides which, I can't remember how to do it. Alas, the ravages of advanced age.

That is interesting, I too have had intense orgasms without clitoral stimulation, but I suppose it is really the back of my clit from the inside. Each time though, it was a deep penetration at an angle going towards my bellybutton.

I'm always amused when men offer to explain the vagaries and intricacies of female sexuality. I wouldn't dream of it. Thanks for the posts ladies. It's always good to hear from you.

It all depends on where your 'junk' is and how his (or her strapon) reaches your stuff, vaginal orgasms exist, for me just not as earth shattering, but most definitely pleasant and always welcomed!

I suppose my SO has been faking them for the last number of years 😢

I know when me and my husband have sex I usually cum when he's inside of me and he's rubbing against my g spot, I cum through clitoral stimulation too but more through g spot stimulation and I sometimes squirt, I'm really sensitive to touch down there

Read the article - the title is misleading.

The article does not say that a woman cannot have an orgasm from vaginal penetration.

It just says that when a woman does have an orgasm during vaginal penetration, the stimulation that gets her off is from stimulation of the internal part of the clitoris aka g-spot through the vaginal wall, not the vagina itself.

HC, yes you are the most correct. Let me give you all a little lesson in basic human anatomy. The clitoris isn't just the little nubbin that you see sticking out from between your lips. You can only see the tip of it. In fact the clitoris is long and varies with each person. It and it's nerves go deep, at least 3 inches. So whether you have an orgasm from external clitoral stimulation, or from it being stimulated a few inches inside(which is what you all are calling a G-spot) or whether it's even deeper as through anal. You don't have an "anal" orgasm, and you don't have a "vaginal" orgasm. The location from which the orgasm stems from doesn't matter because every orgasm a woman has comes from it's root cause which is absolutely 100 percent clitoral stimulation.

The clitoris is often referred to or compared to a penis, and for good reason. A man can have an orgasm just by giving him head, and I mean only head, no shaft work, just head. He can also have one with absolutely no head and just shaft work. And he can have one doing both. So does he have 3 different kind of orgasms? No, he only has one, it just depends what part of his organ is being stimulated. Think of the clitoris as a penis but inside. It's all the same organ being stimulated, but that organ is being stimulated in different places, but the end result is still the same.

If you have ever done any research into female circumcision it will be very clear to you. There are basically 3 different types of female circumcision done. The first is when just the tip is taken. The second is when they take the tip and take out a few more cm under the skin. Then the third is when they basically open them up and dig out about 3 inches or so. And please no one needs to make comments on the whole circumcision issue male or female as this is not what this post is about. The reason I even bring it up is because the cultures doing this still know that a woman's clitoris isn't just what you see on the outside but extends down for a good bit.

So long story short here, technically and medically speaking a woman does not have a true vaginal or anal orgasm, she only has clitoral orgasms brought on by stimulation in, on, or around different areas on her body.

I hope this clears up some things.

Mashie......just tryin to educate the masses, lol.

I read the original post and immediately realized the link was from the Daily Mail. This told me all I needed to know without actually wasting my time in clicking said link.....

What is the big deal around vaginal or clitoral or WTF ever orgasms. Women are complicated. We like different things. Learn what makes your lady partner cum and do it. WGAF if it's from her clit or her G spot or her toes. If it feels good to her DO IT! The rest is Freudian bullshit.

Sorry but the G spot is not part of the clitoris. It is midline and the two "legs "of the clitoris extend laterally. It is not known why it causes such intense orgasms. Sorry to interject this because of course I don't have these structures of anatomy myself. I have absolutely no personal knowledge of how it feels.

My wife says as long as she has an orgasm, she doesn't really care where it came from.....

Amen to that Dozerman, lol.

Mashie

Then I should go tell the women I've made cum by way of intense nipple stimulation and deep vaginal/anal stimulation that wasn't interacting with the clit that they were just faking it and weren't in fact having strong Os from what I was doing to them.

SpecSteve -

In that case yes, it was not "interacting" with the tip of the clit visible to the naked eye. Vaginal/anal penetration does, however, stimulate the internal part of the clitoris which x-rays have discovered occupies a substantial area inside the pelvic floor (particularly when aroused and erect) and that is what tends to allow orgasms as a result of penetration... If...you...read...the...article...!

Some people here keep using the word clit. That word does not mean what you think it means (What?! Yes, read the article and find out.).

By the way, you say you "made" these women cum? People don't "make" each other have orgasms, they merely assist each other. The person having the orgasms is the one who deserves most of the credit for getting there.

Just a note to the moderators- The title of this thread is deceptive. Could you please change the title? I suggest something like: "Internal clitoris responsible for vaginal orgasm."

Half of the people who comment on this thread do not understand what they are commenting on, no matter how many other comments already explain it.

With the more accurate title, no one will be misled to believe the article says there are no orgasms caused by vaginal penetration. Of course for many people with vaginas, there are no orgasms from penetration, and of course there is nothing wrong with that (people just need to find what works for them), but that is another topic.