Legit medical treatment?

Here's a question for the real medical professionals on here. I'm sure many of the members here have heard on the national news about the USA Gymnastics sex abuse scandal. From all that I've read and heard, it involves a doctor that USA Gymnastics and the University of Michigan (I think I have the correct university) have been using for years. Many current and former female gymnasts have accused this doctor of sexual abuse during medical treatments for such ailments as back and hip pain. Apparently he would insert ungloved fingers into the vagina and/or rectum during these "treatments" on many of the girls. From what I have read, these treatments are supposedly legitimate for the specific back and hip pain they were suffering. The obvious issue, and where he allegedly crossed the line, was him not using gloves, there was never a nurse, chaperone, or parent present, and he never explained what he was doing to the girls or asked permission. He also allegedly lingered with his fingers in them, and made crude comments like he does the same thing to his girlfriend, etc. There was a lot more that he allegedly did, but this is just the narrative I am writing for the basis of my question.

Which is this, is there any legitimate purpose to insert a finger or fingers into a female's vagina or rectum for treatment of back or hip pain? The whole premise sounds totally bogus and a BS excuse to sexually assault someone. But supposedly some real medical professionals have said when asked by the media that these treatments do serve a legitimate purpose. From what I understand, the penetration was not to diagnose the cause of the problem, but an actual treatment.

Any real medical professionals care to weigh in? I find the whole "treatment for back and hip pain" as bogus.

The treatment isn't bogus. There are pelvic muscles that can't be accessed any other way (except surgery). No gloves, lingering and no chaperone, especially for young people, are red flags.

So it is some form of therapeutic massage or physical therapy? Are the internal muscles massaged by a combination of the fingers in the vagina or rectum and fingers on the back, abdomen or hip?

It sounds to me like he crossed the line by always being alone with the girls in the exam room, asking inappropriate questions and making crude sexual comments, and of course no gloves. And some of the girls reported that he sometimes kept his fingers in them for up to 45 minutes.

I've had this treatment from a licensed physical therapist. Basically, you use the internal finger to massage the muscles against the inside of the pelvis. You can also adjust the sacrum from an angle only accessible from the inside. It's not erotic nor pleasurable except when you get relief from your pains.

45 minutes? Absolutely. People not involved in bodywork don't know how long it takes for a chronic muscle spasm to release.

Regardless of the legitimacy of the treatment, the second an innappropriate comment is made during a medical procedure is the second where it becomes abuse. No gloves and no chaperones just compounds this horrible abuse.

I have had that done several times for pelvic pain and it is legitimate and it does work. In all cases my PT used gloves and lube and let me know exactly what he was doing or would be doing and what he felt. Yes, it does take a while and as JDS4med points out it is not erotic when you need it. It hurts, but it's the hurt of things getting better. There are many interconnected pelvic floor muscles, and when they are chronically tight or go into spasm it hurts and you can get urinary issues, constipation, and pain through the pelvis as well as referred beyond. Since the pelvis is rigid it is hard to stretch them out through exercises.

Not using gloves for contact with mucous membranes would be a big issue. Crude comments would be a big issue - even if he was working on a guy and made a comment about "I'm sure you'd rather be doing this to your girlfriend" it would be very inappropriate.

Now if I was talking my wife through how to do it to check that things were still how they should be... well, that could get a bit erotic, especially if she was not entirely ... professional ... about it. If she had to do a release on a muscle the erotic would disappear pretty fast.

I would have never guessed that those techniques are real legitimate procedures. I have learned something new!

However, that doctor sounds like a real creeper. No chaperone, no gloves or lube, and inappropriate comments and questions definitely changes the treatment to sexual assault. If those accusations are proven to be true in court, and with that many victims coming forward, probably are true, not only should he lose his medical license permanently, he should be hung in the town square. He has accusers from the college and USA Gymnastics. What a horrendous violation of trust, especially for victims so young.

We all love our medfet, or we wouldn't be on this site, and these types of treatments could make for good role play. But in real life, even when done appropriately, it probably is not pleasant at all.

If looked at it from a logically and clinical standpoint this one of treatment seems legitimate and therapeutic. It is also apparently clarify of the doctor's less than legitimate intentions.